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zcmc53

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any suggestions?
« on: December 18, 2009, 02:24:25 AM »
Well my new pyr puppy is settling in nice and is wonderful dog! He is now about 2 and a half months and 25lbs! Lol he loves his goats and shows no signs of aggression, however, he has started to chase the littler ones now and is sometimes wanting to mouth or chew on their horns or tails. My little buckling is his buddy and let's him chew on his horns.  Cute but not what I want to see. What are some of the things you all have done to get them out of the puppy chase and chew stage? Also the other day my clever wether Ricky decided to open the gate for everyone and have a field day! One of the members of my church drove by and stopped to put them up and said that the puppy was right with the goats and he said he almost ate him up as he tried to get the goats back in the pen! Lol. I was at work and got a call from him after he got them put up. Luckily Koda is only a little thing or he might have had a fight on his hands! Also I have a mission to find a goat proof gate lock!! Lol. Thanks for any suggestions!
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Re: any suggestions?
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2009, 09:55:58 AM »
These are the types of locks on all our gates and we love them!  Easy in and out, but the goats can't get them open.  Now, we didn't get them from this company, but you can shop around.

http://www.shanestack.com/shop/index.php?page=shop-flypage-7623

As far as your Pyr puppy, that's what puppy's do ... chase and play.  And because they get so big, they can hurt smaller animals and not mean to.  When I got our Pyr, she was 13 months old and had been raised with goats so she already knew what to do.  Her parents taught her the ropes before she came here.  So can't help you with the training part. 
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Re: any suggestions?
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2009, 02:18:00 PM »
I gave up on gate latches for goats, and now use a chain with a double ended snap. It is a lot more trouble, but having goats where they shouldn't be was too stressful. As far as the puppy is concerned, I'm no help there, I'd buy a shock collar and sit by the window for a few days, zapping that bugger every time he chased/chewed.
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Re: any suggestions?
« Reply #3 on: December 19, 2009, 12:06:05 AM »
With these pups they get bored easily....Sounds like he needs more work. I also when mine tried this as Ihave Nigerians I would flip them on their back and grab the throat and scold them and say No Sharply. After about 2 times they get the idea thats thats not acceptable treatment of the goats. Also I have larger goats that wont take it from pups at all and ram the peedaddle out of the pups. MY female also now trains the pups not to chase as when she sees them trying it she takes them down and grabs their throats and growls at them or she just runs them down. I think she has done a awsome job and trains them not to chase chickens either.
Usually the scolding works and sometimes it takes a flipping with the scolding . I have the collars and tried them and it didnt work just made them yelp and off they went again.Their hair is so darn thick and my male has a very high pain tollerance also. aI had to move the collar to the highest number and still he didnt seem bothered that much. Before you pay $100 for a collar try the flipping and scolding. Also he needs a pal. I have 4 grown GP/ Anatolian and they do play with each other instead of hurting the goats. Good luck and I hope this helps some. It worked for me.
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Re: any suggestions?
« Reply #4 on: December 19, 2009, 02:56:52 PM »
The long hair is a problem with shock collars and the placement must be correct also .
locate the shock box at the base of the throat with the long prongs on'
sometimes you have to shave the area where the prongs contact.
my Rottie can take a heck of a shock too when distracted by something he'd like to have.
Definitely try the flipping and scolding first.
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Re: any suggestions?
« Reply #5 on: December 19, 2009, 03:56:35 PM »
Some dogs require the hunting level collars, they have two shock levels you can purchase. They are all pretty spendy, if scolding and putting the dog on its back works, you can save a bunch of money. It just hasn't worked on the dogs I have owned.
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Re: any suggestions?
« Reply #6 on: December 29, 2009, 03:59:19 AM »
Well after some good yelling across the yard and flippin, Koda seems to have the idea that chasing is a bad thing. I am also going to get him fixed the first of Jan so I am sure he will chill out some more. He only chases and chews at feeding when all the goats get excited. So I have been feeding him separate and putting him afterwards with my big goats! Lol let's just say he got a lesson real quick not to chase, chew, or get near their food. Lol. All the rest of the time he is a mini version of what I want him to be so no real complaints here. PS I do have a collar pon the way but it is for my pointer, but if push comes to shove he may try it out first. Thanks so much for the help. I will keep youall updated and post some current pics.
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